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<title>Where are the Micros? (3 replies)</title><link>http://www.drcheckraise.com/phorum/read.php?44,28935,28935#msg-28935</link><description><![CDATA[ OK, so I'd taken all my money off PokerStars and Full Tilt, and was only playing on SpadeClub, where I impersonated an Azerbaijani maniac player named Aziz who shouted &quot;FREE AZERBAIJAN every time he went all-in (which was often), gave very &quot;unique&quot; reviews of Survivor, Celebrity Apprentice, and NASCAR (Aziz was convinced whenever &quot;Mister Dale Earnhartz Juniors&quot; didn't win, it was because he wouldn't pay &quot;Mister Bill Frances&quot; off, but &quot;Mister Jimmie Johnsons&quot; would, so he won a lot). Aziz drove everyone crazy, yet still managed to win his membership every month, and generate a profit as well. More importantly, I often laughed till my stomach muscles hurt. I had the best time .....<br /><br />Right when Spade Club went away, an old acquaintance of mine got into a jam, so I PayPalled him a couple of hundred bucks. As a show of gratitude, he transferred his remaining 12.87 balance on PokerStars to me. I went to the .01/.02 tables, and won a little, but the PokerStars players didn't get Aziz, and it wasn't as much fun.<br /><br />Instead, I decided to see what I could do with that 12.87, and began playing the micros. My favorites were the .25 (no rake) 45 and 90 player SNGs, and the twice-daily .25 (no rake) MTTs, and the 3am .50+5 MTT. I actually managed to turn that 12.87 into a tidy sum, and more importantly, saw my game improve.<br /><br />So after Black Friday, no more PokerStars. I got all my money, but have had nowhere to play. I'm in Oklahoma, so the subscription sites won't even let me play!<br /><br />I've looked at Lock, Cake, etc., but they didn't have micros. Does anyone know of a site that takes US players that does?<br /><br />Thanks<br /><br />FREE AZERBAIJAN!!!!!!]]></description>
<dc:creator>seanof30306</dc:creator>
<category>Low Risk &amp; Low Limit Strategy</category><pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2012 12:34:53 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>My new top 10 rules. (2 replies)</title><link>http://www.drcheckraise.com/phorum/read.php?44,19015,19015#msg-19015</link><description><![CDATA[ Over the last few years some good tidbits from my friends at SpadeClub, out in the forums and recently playing over 70 live events have been working. I wanted to share some for the newer players looking to take it up a knotch. For your contemplation, here is what has been working for me.<br /><br />1) Know your table. Profile and test the water while the blinds are low and stacks deep. Watch everything. Who is tight, who is a calling station, what types of hands are they playing? Who plays position and c-bets? Who is over aggressive and who over commits? Who can I understand and who will leave me in the dark.<br /><br />2) Know DK's P.S.I. Position, Stack and Image. Yours and theirs. Have I been playing over aggresivelly or tight? Am I playing opposite the table? What about my opponent? Can their stack support my aggresion? Can mine or will I commit myself? Can I trap them into being pot commited? What is my &quot;M&quot;?<br /><br />3) Know your M. Your stack diveded by the big blind + the small blind and add the ante x the number of players at the table. So if the blinds are 500/1000 with a 100 ante and 10 players it will cost me 2500 per orbit. 20,000 chips dont last long with an M of 8! How many big blinds is decieving. I dont use the exact harrington model but follow some basic rules. My range and aggresion have to work with my M.<br /><br />4) Consider the chips in play and average stack. Know how many players are in the field and starting stack. I like to stay on pace or obviously better. Sometimes things go well and I can sit back more. But countinually reavalute average stack and M so you dont wait too long. And steal in the sweet spots while there are chips to spare! Sometimes everybodies M's are low so having an idea of what percentage of the chips in play you have and comparing it to spots paid is imortant.<br /><br />5) Don't auto bet or auto c-bet. Especially out of position or against lags. It sucks to be wasting chips with nothing against a player that I should know has more info than me or is a calling station. Reserve position or c-bets for tight players or Later in the game when chips are more conserved and at tables with tight image established. Learn to love the checkraise or float the flop to wait for for a cooler on the turn against players who auto bet.<br /><br />6) Dont over commit. Get to accept that a good draw with great odds, pot or implied are worth chasing and 1 pair wont hold up. Exploit players that do. Betting 17 BB wont change a lags mind. Only call with odds and a stack to support putting them in the middle. Save as many as you can for raising in situations where you are in the drivers seat.<br /><br />7) Maximize monsters and minimize losses. Take it slow. Give rope but dont hang yourself. Control the pot. Look to get opponents carefully commited with big hands but also be ready to take the backdoor out.<br /><br />8) Play the bubble but accept you will often be the bubble doing it. I have read that cashing 1 in 4 games and winning one of every 4 of those is outstanding. You will lose far more touneys than you will win. But the math will work out in your favour if you play to win. Don't be a nit and blind out. The only sure thing about cards and you never know which 2 will come and when.<br /><br />9) Play to win and be profitable. AFTER the bubble, sometimes your best move is to try to advance a couple more money jumps or take a chop. Evaluate each game individually. Did you play for a small profit to help your bankroll? Is it a sat or cash session? Are you looking to make enough for a bigger buyin or is the top 3 spots the only thing worth fighting for? Are you trying to advance on a leaderboard or points race? Which is most important right now?<br /><br />10) Ask yourself a couple of things in every tricky spot and especially on the river....Can I only get called by a better hand here? Can my opponent read the info presented? If he or she can and isn't backing down why? If they can't and you have it great. If you don't, don't do it.<br />They don't know what they don't know. But if you do be content with your decisions. If you wanted the call and lost, know than in losing you gained by making a long term profitable play. Don't get mad at the puppet when you are pulling the strings. Make bets you want called or admit to yourself that you took the gamble in and it wasnt the right type of player, situation or look for where your story didnt add up. Don't blame the cards, they only know how to be random and inconsistent.<br /><br />Learn from every hand and every player you play it against!]]></description>
<dc:creator>jontm</dc:creator>
<category>Low Risk &amp; Low Limit Strategy</category><pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 06:46:03 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>small ball (no replies)</title><link>http://www.drcheckraise.com/phorum/read.php?44,11839,11839#msg-11839</link><description><![CDATA[ how do you play small ball poker]]></description>
<dc:creator>jwh22</dc:creator>
<category>Low Risk &amp; Low Limit Strategy</category><pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 09:04:51 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>spadeclub strategy (1 reply)</title><link>http://www.drcheckraise.com/phorum/read.php?44,11278,11278#msg-11278</link><description><![CDATA[ what is the best strategy for making the final table at spadeclub.what starting hands should be played and correct bets]]></description>
<dc:creator>jwh22</dc:creator>
<category>Low Risk &amp; Low Limit Strategy</category><pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 09:16:15 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>COULD USE A LITTLE HELP ON MY SC TOURNEYMENT STRATEGY. AND TACTICS. (2 replies)</title><link>http://www.drcheckraise.com/phorum/read.php?44,9660,9660#msg-9660</link><description><![CDATA[ GREETINGS EVERYONE. I HAVE BEEN IN SPADE CLUB ABOUT 2 OR 3 MONTHS NOW AND SINCE BEING IN I HAVE HAD A HORRIBLE TIME WITH MY MTT GAME. I WON A RED TOKEN TAKING 15TH PLACE IN THE 30K DOUBLE QUALIFIER AND WON 5 DOLLARS IN A CASH GAME TAKING LIKE 18TH PLACE. I HAVE MADE 1 FINAL TABLE IN THE MEMBERSHIP FREEROLL ONE TIME. IT SEEMS LIKE I AM DOING SOMETHING RIGHT BUT I THINK MY PROBLEM IS THE FACT THAT WHENEVER I HAVE A GOOD STARTING HAND PREFLOP AND SOMEONE BETS INTO ME ALL IN PREFLOP I HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER MY HAND IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR A CALL. WHEN I THINK IT IS GOOD ENOUGH I TEND TO LOSE MY CHIPS. SOMETIMES CRIPPLING ME INTO A DOWNWARD SPIRAL UNTIL FINALLY IM PUT OUT OF COMMISSION. A LOT OF TIMES I SEEN PEOPLE GO ALL IN WITH A 93OS OR A K2 OR OTHER DONK HANDS AND WIN!! IF I TRY TO CHANGE MY GAME PLAYING THESE TYPES OF HANDS I USUALLY LOSE SO I DONT PLAY THEM. MY PRINCIPLE IS IF MY HAND IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO CALL A RE-RAISE PREFLOP I USUALLY FOLD IT. I HAVE A LOT OF WEAKNESSES WHEN I GET INTO THESE TOURNEYMENTS AND COULD USE SOME HELP HERE TO GET MY GAME BETTER. I WANT TO IMPROVE TO THE POINT WHERE I CAN CONSISTENTLY (AT LEAST 2X A MONTH) MAKE IT TO THE MONEY TO COVER SOME SUBSCRIPTION COSTS. CAN ANYONE HELP? MAYBE PLAY ME HEADS UP TO SEE HOW I PLAY AND THEN TRAIN ME TO BE A BETTER ONLINE PLAYER?]]></description>
<dc:creator>MrM89</dc:creator>
<category>Low Risk &amp; Low Limit Strategy</category><pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:03:51 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>If Your here Visit the Tactical Section (no replies)</title><link>http://www.drcheckraise.com/phorum/read.php?44,9564,9564#msg-9564</link><description><![CDATA[ Tactical Poker is essential at all levels, but at the lower limits its an edge!<br /><br />Check here from time to time.<br /><br />[<a href="http://www.drcheckraise.com/phorum/list.php?30#forum" rel="nofollow" >www.drcheckraise.com</a>]]]></description>
<dc:creator>jontm</dc:creator>
<category>Low Risk &amp; Low Limit Strategy</category><pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 16:22:16 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>SNG's DonkeyKong Style! (no replies)</title><link>http://www.drcheckraise.com/phorum/read.php?44,9561,9561#msg-9561</link><description><![CDATA[ The actual post is in tactical...this is a very powerful concept, especially at the low limits.<br /><br />[<a href="http://www.drcheckraise.com/phorum/read.php?30,9558#forum" rel="nofollow" >www.drcheckraise.com</a>]]]></description>
<dc:creator>jontm</dc:creator>
<category>Low Risk &amp; Low Limit Strategy</category><pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:39:02 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Donkeys and the Poker Economy (2 replies)</title><link>http://www.drcheckraise.com/phorum/read.php?44,8334,8334#msg-8334</link><description><![CDATA[ (I originally posted this on SC Blog)<br /><br /><b>Definition of Donkey</b> from an online resource:<br /><i>Stupid, weak player of stupid move.</i><br />Usage: Like in sentence &quot;Let's go to this poker room. it is full of donkeys&quot; ..<br /><br />So why are Donkeys berated, reprimanded and hated so much? Shouldn't they be embraced? Well, I believe the Donkey's are our future..<br /><br />The Poker Economy is drying up in both $ and players. It is felt from the lowest .01/.02 online games all the way up to the Big Game in Bobby's Room at the Bellagio (if you don't believe this, listen to any recent interview with Barry Greenstein). Two reasons:<br />1. UIEGA legislation has slashed the US poker pool.<br />2. The recession has left people with lower disposable incomes for things like poker.<br />Couple this with the fact that players are getting better faster due to all the resources available today and being a winning poker player is not as easy as it used to be. . .<br /><br />Subscription sites like Spade Club create a way around UIEGA legislation in the US, and provide a low cost solution. The nature of subscription sites also form a breeding ground for Donkeys, because of a sub sites accessibility and low risk environment. But I argue that this good for Poker overall. With the Poker Economy drying up and the average level of skill higher than before, these &quot;<u>Donkeys&quot; represent the future</u> of our beloved game.<br /><br />When a Donkey makes an incredible suckout, it's a win for poker, as it reinforces bad play, and keeps them coming back for more. They represent the seeds that will someday bear fruit for all of us. Donkey's are the poker economic stimulus package. (Coincidentally the Donkey is the animal of a certain political party responsible for another economic stimulus package) Subscription sites are like a gateway drug for Donkeys. Today's <b>Donkey</b> at your Subsite just might be tomorrow's <b>Fish</b> at your regular live cash game.<br /><br />Anyone else for Surf and Turf?<br /><br /><br />DK]]></description>
<dc:creator>DonkeyKong</dc:creator>
<category>Low Risk &amp; Low Limit Strategy</category><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:18:30 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Micro stakes cash (no replies)</title><link>http://www.drcheckraise.com/phorum/read.php?44,7458,7458#msg-7458</link><description><![CDATA[ So you don't have much for a bankroll and you want to play some poker. I've been playing micro stakes cash games for a couple of years, but haven't really been successful until lately. I attribute this to a new style that I've adapted to fit the tables I play.<br />We've established that the most profitable style of play is the opposite of what your opponents are playing. So I've learned to force my opponents to make mistakes. You have to learn to read flop texture well to make this style work well. Don't be afraid to lay down hands and even make some hero calls. What I do is sit at a single table after watching a few hands and figuring out if there are any extra tight or super loose players. I sit where I can best exploit their styles. If I can't sit where I like I just try to pay extra attention to the flop texture so I don't get myself in trouble against these kinds of opponents.<br />Next I establish a pattern for myself. I either appear super tight or super loose. The more loose aggressive I have been playing the better the profit margin. Now when I say I'm playing aggressive, what I'm doing is raising with a wider range of hands, but making my raises closer to a 2.5 to 3x the BB range. This disguises the range of my hands and also keeps the other players on the defensive. Becareful not to commit too many of your chips without some kind of hand or a draw at least, but you will be able to throw plenty of bluffs in here against the tight players. Some players at this level never fold, and this is where you'll be making your money. After you've made your hand you can still overbet the pot when you make your hand and get calls from these really weak players. I've had a single pair call with 4 to the flush on the board.<br /><br />I'll keep this short and add to the discussion later. But this should get us started.<br />Does anyone play micro on any certain sites? I would enjoy your input I'll even try out any other styles you propose and we can see how they work.<br />Sorry it's been so long since my last post, but I'm sure I'll get some regular posts going again here now.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Hayloftkid</dc:creator>
<category>Low Risk &amp; Low Limit Strategy</category><pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:35:35 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>CAN ANYONE GET AWAY FROM THIS SITUATION?? (8 replies)</title><link>http://www.drcheckraise.com/phorum/read.php?44,6477,6477#msg-6477</link><description><![CDATA[ This happened twice yesterday, by the LAUGHTER, of the poker gods!!!!<br /><br />I know that this happens occasionally, but twice in one day!!! Both times I was taken to the rail.<br /><br />Pocket 10's...blinds 100/200...limp in...raise to 400 by the button...flat call...4 to the flop...flop comes down A 10 5...rainbow...goes like this...check, then me I bet half the size of the pot, fold, all in, fold, then to me call...you guessed it button has the bullets. I guess I didnt give him too much credit for the raise, as it was a small raise and it was on the button. The guy had played fairly loose.<br /><br />then 20 min later,<br /><br />pocket 9's...Blinds 50/100...raised 3X...2 callers....flop K 9 3, 2 diamonds...I raise 3/4 pot to protect flush draw....guy pushes all in...I am thinking, no flush please...please pair the board...these thoughts go through my head...no worries, guy has pocket KK. Crap, if only I had wished for the 4th nine before I called the all in....I did pair the board and no flush fell. The guy that raised from early position, had the kings, and he had been playing tight.<br /><br />I am not sure there is any way to get away from these hands?? Any thoughts??<br /><br />Dont get me wrong, I know that hitting trips wins me way more chips than I loose, so I am not going to play them differently, just was wondering what other thoughts were.<br /><br />portlandford]]></description>
<dc:creator>portlandford</dc:creator>
<category>Low Risk &amp; Low Limit Strategy</category><pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:09:35 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Leak #3 &quot;Only donks play that!&quot; (2 replies)</title><link>http://www.drcheckraise.com/phorum/read.php?44,6437,6437#msg-6437</link><description><![CDATA[ So why do we think Ace rag and K rag are Donk hands? What about small and mid pockets into a raise? What about suited connectors? The book says &quot;Good Players FOLD!&quot;<br /><br />I think this all we get stuck on hearing some times. When we hashed up &quot;Fit or Fold&quot; some great leaks were exposed and great points made.<br /><br />Yes, calling a raise to try and win the blinds against a heads up opponent or a bunch of all ins for your tournement life, not such a good play.<br /><br />Calling an overbet without the best of drawing hands or made pockets, risky, maybe there are huge implied odds.<br /><br /><b>With position and better than 3-1 odds and a mountain of chips on the button or late position? Huge leak if we aren't playing a playable hand.</b><br /><br />We get to see who is in the pot and what they will do first. +1 for the good guys. Even a raise doesn't mean our K isn't good. We just need to read your opponents. Maybe we hit the flop hard, get a piece or pick up a huge draw. Either way we know what we have to call or are in position to be the first raiser.<br /><br />I think we get stuck on our table image. We want to hear &quot;BLANK plays solid poker!&quot;<br /><br /><b>Put if we are a playing solid poker we need to get into pots in profitable situations. We need to open up our playable hand range. We just need be good enough to stay out of trouble (poor odds, implied and pot) situations. We need to be able to fold if we hit the wrong piece. We need to pay attention to position and opponents.</b><br /><br />DONKS call in poor situations.<br /><br /><b>We can't just win with Premium Hands. Even if they are best its hard to get paid off and we just don't get enough of them 90 days out of 100.</b> If we rely on them, we tend to play them scared, risking it all, chasing away opponents, or pot commiting ourselves to be outdrawn.<br /><br />We are relying on luck just as much as the donks. If we are truly good, we should be able to play alot of hands a lot of ways, depending on the situation.<br /><br /><b>These are a few problems I've noticed at times in my game:<br /><br />Playing Pocket Pairs or Ace rag as if it was a shorthanded game.<br /><br />Talking my self into my Ace or Rag when I was going to try to flush, and the action clearly shows otherwise.<br /><br />Folding my Pockets two early or my draw, when the pot is offering me odds to take another card.<br /><br />Playing these types of hands when my stack is too low to afford it, or not playing them when my stack can.</b><br /><br /><br /><b>In short, no, not only Donks play that, they just play it in the wrong spots or for the wrong reasons.<br /><br />Thats what the other 200 pages of &quot;the book&quot; says, At least once we learn to read it. Still working on that........</b>]]></description>
<dc:creator>jontm</dc:creator>
<category>Low Risk &amp; Low Limit Strategy</category><pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:59:17 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>I have been &quot;CHARGED!&quot; with impared poker. (8 replies)</title><link>http://www.drcheckraise.com/phorum/read.php?44,6307,6307#msg-6307</link><description><![CDATA[ Through review of my poker perciptions, it has been discovered by my poker mentors that there are &quot;inhibitors&quot; in my poker system.<br /><br />Also known in the poker world as &quot;leaks&quot;. Though like many abusers, I have managed to hide these from myself, remain friendly while intoxicated and thankfully have caused little harm to the poker community. I have decided to turn my self in for treatment. (OK, I caused a little harm on my quest for the black star)<br /><br />During this treatment, I will be supervised by my fellow DrCheckRaise members, SCkenny and the SpadeClub Community.<br /><br />As part of my treatment, my license to &quot;Binge Poker&quot; has been revoked. I must spend as much time dealing in shaking my addiction to &quot;leaks&quot; as playing. I won't lie, there are gonna be some rocky times.<br /><br />To help myself, I also must reach out to others, either for &quot;fundemental&quot; support or as part of a recovery group.<br /><br />I must attend clinics every Sunday, when not under the direct supervision of my family. I will keep a diary of my progress to be accountable and for review by my peers.<br /><br />When will I be cured? My progress will be evaluted on January 1st, 2010.<br /><br />The evaluation will consist of a few things:<br /><br />My Overall SPOY ranking, for baseline purposes.<br /><br />My quality of play. This will be Judged using my hands played, SPOY Points earned, badges collected and Money won. I will be allowed to also factor in my Live profits.<br /><br />My ranking as compared to JonsWife (who will be schooled) .......umm sorry little slip.<br /><br />Its gonna be tough, but I have to kick the &quot;leaks&quot; . (END)<br /><br /><br />Current record:<br /><br />SC Member Since: April 26, 2008 SPOY Rank 2008: 257<br /><br />Quality of play Stats as of Feb 2, 2009: 72.5k hands played (MTT Live, Sats and Points)<br /><br />Since SC start date: (all games except home games)<br /><br /><br />12 wins<br /><br />43 Top 5<br /><br />45 6-9th<br /><br />15 Outside final but in money (not points)<br /><br /><br />Total of MTT Wins for Over $100 Since 2006= $7527 (not profits)<br /><br /><br />Total Live profits for 2008: $3500 +/- (factored in a negative 25% for expense, safety factor)<br /><br />$60 buy in min stats MTT: 2 chops (HU), 1 third, 1 win ($2000 total)<br /><br />5 final tables total. Less than 20 live MTT played since April 2008. (Average buy in $60) -$1200 entry<br /><br />12 live Casino cash sessions: 4/8 Limit, 3-6 Limit, 1-3 NL, 5/10 Omaha High/Lo Limit $2.15 returned per $1 wager ($100 buy) +$1380<br /><br />Approximatelly 25 Home games. $3.30 returned per $1 wager ($40 buy in) +$2300<br /><br />Total Subscription site wins: $389 (-30% for IRS) = $272.30 - $120 membership fees = +$164.30]]></description>
<dc:creator>jontm</dc:creator>
<category>Low Risk &amp; Low Limit Strategy</category><pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 12:54:01 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Leak Number #1, Factors in considering bet size. (5 replies)</title><link>http://www.drcheckraise.com/phorum/read.php?44,6305,6305#msg-6305</link><description><![CDATA[ This is the first of many topics that will be edited when a player puts forth unarguable evidence that while it can be an effective strategy, it is sloppy or a crutch. Plain and simply, a &quot;leak&quot;.<br /><br /><b>Alot of us have switched to uping our bet sizes to discourage draw poker or loose players from chasing.</b><br /><br />Please read <b>Frank's article</b>, it is evidence that there is no cure for &quot;Donk&quot;.<br /><br /><b>Gamblers will Gamble</b>.<br /><br />Also please read the article written by <b>&quot;Nerice&quot; in Tactical, about overbetting</b> and how it can be a major leak.<br /><br />For now we will leave it at this:<br /><br /><b>Sometimes when we overbet we actually giving good players who understand the math of the game well, a correct reason to call by giving good odds. To those without the same knowledge, it appears to be a &quot;Donk&quot; call.</b><br /><br />We also scare away customers from a hand that has potential to make good cash or earn great chips.<br /><br /><b>Why do we overbet?</b> Because we remember the times we got run over.<br /><br />Do they outweigh the times we didn't when we played the hand right? Turns out in the long run, No. It just stings every time and that we don't forget.<br /><br /><b>How do we protect against the dreaded flush draw?</b> We shouldn't overbet to do it. If they have flopped 4 to the flush, <b>they are roughly 36% to improve</b> and thats <b>not including overcards or overcards they think they might hold.<br />Throw in a floped pair and/ or any type of straight draw,</b> well, How can you blame them? We know through discusion that we sometimes overlook those outs and only notice the flush they were chasing.<br /><br />There are alot of situations that will give them the right odds to call. <b>No matter how much it pisses us off, its not &quot;donk&quot; poker, its good poker.</b><br /><br />What we need to do is consider the style of play of our opponent, and <b>try to keep the pot and the chips we commit, to a level we are comfortable getting away from if they hit.</b> We should also keep it to a size where we can comfortably call a value bet if we smell a bluff or reverse.<br /><br /><b>Poker is about discipline, right?</b> It can be profitable to fold and save chips that are otherwise gone, right?<br /><br /><b><u>We will be able to put the hurt on if the hand holds and scrape a fat pot, right?</u></b><br /><br /><b>Overbetting is effective, but unfortunatelly a leak.</b><br /><br />Last thought, I have heard that you should not commit more than 5x BB to a preflop bet in order to control the pressure that you feel to complete the hand or to avoid getting yourself pot commited.<br /><br /><b>There are of course, fold equity and small stack situations, but consider the message</b>.<br /><br />Please keep this thread going and add your thoughts.]]></description>
<dc:creator>jontm</dc:creator>
<category>Low Risk &amp; Low Limit Strategy</category><pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:35:52 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Technical Terms and Poker Math (7 replies)</title><link>http://www.drcheckraise.com/phorum/read.php?44,6249,6249#msg-6249</link><description><![CDATA[ This we work into slowly and I am not the best person for this. To start I have invited DonkyKong, Poker1040 and Nerice to help explain some basics and percentages. <b>The first thing is basic but gives a basline for decisions and was an explanation by member Nerice:</b><br /><br />M is how many orbits you can survive before you blind out. To keep it simple, lets say the default pot from blinds and ante's is 150. Your stack is 1500, 1500/150=10. So M is 10. If the table is short I will subtract 1/2 depending on how short it is since the table is shorter your getting hit with the blinds more often, so need to react to a low M sooner than you would need to at a full table.<br /><br />There is a Q too, Q deals with your stack related to the average stack size, rather than the blinds/antes that M does. So say the average stack size is 1000, and you have a 1000 chips your Q would be 1. If you had 2000 your Q would be 2, if you had 500 your Q would be .5. While not nearly as important as M, the higher it is the better, but there are situations where I will play something or shove 4/5 times in one orbit due to Q irregardless of M or cards as I will not let it get too low as the lower it goes, the lower the chance of running really deep goes down too.]]></description>
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<category>Low Risk &amp; Low Limit Strategy</category><pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:31:43 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Fold Equity (Copied wth permission from member Nerice) (1 reply)</title><link>http://www.drcheckraise.com/phorum/read.php?44,6246,6246#msg-6246</link><description><![CDATA[ At my current understanding of the game, it means 2 things to me;<br /><br />If I am going to want to or have to put them all in anyway, do it while it means something.<br /><br /><b>or</b><br /><br />It is better to save enough of my chips for a threatning raise than to call of blind by blind until I am little more than an annoyance in a coin flip or a dry pot lottery.<br /><br /><b>Also consider:</b> I have a better chance of winning a hand by isolating with as few opponents as possible, than waiting until I am the big blind all in being checked down by my table<br /><br />Thats the layman version, but for a deeper explanation our member and post author Nerice had this to say.......]]></description>
<dc:creator>jontm</dc:creator>
<category>Low Risk &amp; Low Limit Strategy</category><pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 16:47:05 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>PROTECTING AGAIN FLUSH AND STRAIGHT DRAWS (3 replies)</title><link>http://www.drcheckraise.com/phorum/read.php?44,6008,6008#msg-6008</link><description><![CDATA[ I was wondering what others thought of protecting flush and straight draws?<br /><br />When I hit, I always bet 3/4 to a full pot size bet if there is a flush or straight draw present. Protecting my hand. I will even respresent that I am trying to protect against the draws when I have them. This works alot when playing against less than experienced players. The experienced players just re-raise you.<br /><br />But why is it that there is so many players that do not protect the draws? They check when they hit and then flat call, they dont check-raise to let me know where I am at. If i were to do the same thing the draw would certainly hit. I have starting betting after the first check, and checking after the 2nd check, to see the river if I dont think that I am ahead. Hate to give the free card though!!<br /><br />What do you think?<br /><br />portlandford]]></description>
<dc:creator>portlandford</dc:creator>
<category>Low Risk &amp; Low Limit Strategy</category><pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:19:16 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Applying Pressure is Winning (Watching the big dogs......) (16 replies)</title><link>http://www.drcheckraise.com/phorum/read.php?44,5917,5917#msg-5917</link><description><![CDATA[ I love watching the game as much as playing it, and everyday one thing becomes clearer and clearer. Applying Pressure I am only beginning to have the confidence to use, there is a big part of me that thinks tight is right.<br /><br />I watch players like myself, Poker1040 who are more Tag than lag. With only a few good hands to build a stack, we can go pretty far. Good results, sometimes great. Then there are players who are supertight, make it to alot of finals but don't win many.<br /><br />Todays 30k sold me. The winner never let off his opponents from start to finish. Never mind him though, I have spent a great deal of time playing with players like AndrewB and Mirek78. Hayloft and Portlandford are also good examples, but they might be a little less crazy, LOL. Our forum founder Mr DrCheckRaise himself rounds off my examples.<br /><br />What do they all have in common? They just don't let off. They pick up orphan pots, something I am trying to do more of. Do these players get more good cards then us? No. What they do is play hard at players. Does this mean they are commited to seeing every hand to show down? No. But they keep the pressure on. Sometimes they even gamble just to send a message.<br /><br />Works for me in the Dailys. Why not in the big games? Works for me live. Cause I can see my opponents. But Why not again in the big Monthly and Weekly games?<br /><br />Its about pressure. The bigger the game the less I want to make a mistake. Second guess myself. Worry about making a donk call pre-flop. Probabbly the biggest hole in my game, and maybe many others.<br /><br />We have to convince ourselves to apply pressure once we build chips. I have the problem of shutting down when I am chipleader midway through. Yet ever notice how sometimes we play more aggresively to save our skin short stacked?<br /><br />Our cards never change, our frame of mind does. This is what I need to work on and subsites offer tons of players who are feeling more pressured than the average intermediate player should.<br /><br />Yes, there are days when we just can't get off the ground but with less than an average good day of cards we have all stomped a game or two right? To win more often my goal will be to build confidence in applying pressure.<br /><br />That is the true meaning behind the saying any two cards can win. They are all capable of applying the same pressure when played by a great player. Doesn't mean they actually beat the other players hand.<br /><br />Not only do the other players fear the pressure they know they will have to face, but they also let their guard down out of frustration. Watch the guys I mentioned. Not to try to outplay them, but to learn from them and win like them.<br /><br />PS. I watched almost the entire 30k tonight, Played for 2 hours with the guy that won it. Had open the final 3 tables. There is no doubt in my mind this is the key. Subscription site are a low risk place to breed this monster attitude.<br /><br /><b>(A few days later)<br /><br />It never hurts to read the whole thread, but after long thought and 14 hours of play, I found something I missed but should have known..........</b>]]></description>
<dc:creator>jontm</dc:creator>
<category>Low Risk &amp; Low Limit Strategy</category><pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:42:08 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>FIT or FOLD, (Very Playable but trouble Hands....) (6 replies)</title><link>http://www.drcheckraise.com/phorum/read.php?44,5843,5843#msg-5843</link><description><![CDATA[ <b>I'll get it started with my thoughts, but lets here em all! I want to throw out my bad habits or twisted perceptions!<br /><br /><b>As promised, my twisted Perciptions have been edited from this post. Keep reading the responses for some good advice!</b><br /><br />What is working for you?</b> My thoughts here are basic, but are better explained by more technical players in the thread.<br /><br />Mid Pockets are trouble hands for me, lately I try to flop a set or fold. I like the responses in the thread better.<br /><br />SCKenny made a good point about ace rag. Play A-2 to A-5 suited to try to hit the flop. Best in position, then you can raise preflop to represent the flop if weakness is shown. Again, unless your read and the table action supports the best hand, be prepared to dump fast and hard with less than 11+ outs on the flop.<br /><br />There is a one thing to consider, but it is a longshot in multi way pots. If you hit your kicker, and there are no face cards on the board, remember your opponent will have missed 66% of the time. A weak countinuation bet should be reraised to see if your opponents are playing premium face cards.<br /><br />You can get paid off by weak players who can't dump their overs, but should not invest alot of chips trying. Keep it small and be prepared to raise if the board presents a bluff oppurtunity. Any face cards hits, you are finished with it.<br /><br />BEST CONSISTANT ADVICE FROM MANY, FIT THE FLOP OR DUMP THESE DUDS!]]></description>
<dc:creator>jontm</dc:creator>
<category>Low Risk &amp; Low Limit Strategy</category><pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 10:51:11 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>The ultimate training experiment. (2 replies)</title><link>http://www.drcheckraise.com/phorum/read.php?44,5842,5842#msg-5842</link><description><![CDATA[ This one is borrowed from Phil Gordon, but others have used a similar method.<br /><br />It is for new players or players who rely on cards to play. This will open up a whole different perception.<br /><br />Subscription sites are the perfect place to try it, no cost.<br /><br />Get spome post it notes. Place one over your hole cards. You will play blind. No one can see you doing this.<br /><br />You are not going to have cards make your decisions. You will play hands based only on position and opponent selection.<br /><br />Try to find weak players and play with position on them. Raise entering pots.<br /><br />If they check, bet pot. If they make a weak raise, reraise. If you get reraised fold. You will play only on table info.<br /><br />Try to do this once in awhile and see if it helps your table reading skills.<br /><br />Now after this comes together, you can add your outs into the equation and remove the sticky.<br /><br />I would bet for newer or tight passive players this will improve your game a few levels, it killed my passive side.<br /><br />From here you can start making these same plays at least 2 times per hour when you play. The idea is only to force the concept into your natural game play. You have to commit to making moves regardless of your situation.<br /><br />Practising this will win you some fat pots when the cards just aren't being your friend.<br /><br />Winning $$$ is a rush. Winning big $$$ with nothing is soothing.]]></description>
<dc:creator>jontm</dc:creator>
<category>Low Risk &amp; Low Limit Strategy</category><pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:51:24 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>(Edited) Exploiting the &quot;conspiracy/internet fears&quot; to your advantage. (5 replies)</title><link>http://www.drcheckraise.com/phorum/read.php?44,5794,5794#msg-5794</link><description><![CDATA[ Time to get this started. I'll keep it short to start.<br /><br />We all see the players who rant and rage about flushes and straights. If there is a player to make a note on or if you are lucky enough to have one on your table, it can be to your advantage to enter hands with position on this type of player.<br /><br />The spots won't be abundant, but on a 2 to a straight or flush board or board that pairs the turn with middle or bottom pair. Let this opponent try to protect 1 pair then bluff when the scare card hits. Smooth call the raises until the card hits, to represent a chase.<br /><br />It works better on subscription sites and freerolls than live because you get alot of players who think online is rigged against them.<br /><br />Couple of important things to making it work and it won't always;<br /><br />1) Use it only when the player is passive or slightly titlting, not super tilting.<br /><br />2) Use it when the player has enough chips to fold to your bluff.<br /><br />3) You have to bet as if you have it. NOT ALL IN! Make it suspisious. Look at 2 things, the pot size and the players stack size. Betting somewhere over half but not more than 3/4 of the smaller of the two seems like a good rule of thumb to me.<br /><br />4) This is not going to work on good players often, but with a little practise you will find it is an effective bluff aginst the abundant new players, tight passive players and super haters!<br /><br />5) You need to stay in position for the most part, it just makes it easier to dump if it goes bad. Also if the player checks the scare card, most times you have all the info you need right there.<br /><br />If Players want to fill their heads with false fears, might as take advantage of it. There are plenty that will tell you that they are a sucker for this bluff through ranting blogs and table chat.<br /><br />Another good place is at the end of tourney against tight players who's stats show that they are approaching their first finals, first wins etc. They just don't want to take the chance. Its not a bad bubble play against a rookie player at anytime really.<br /><br />Even when you get caught in this one, on a weak table it will set up a great oppurtunity to get someones stack in easily when you have the legit hand, but I will throw in thought on the online reverse later.]]></description>
<dc:creator>jontm</dc:creator>
<category>Low Risk &amp; Low Limit Strategy</category><pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:37:02 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>Playing more than one game at a time (16 replies)</title><link>http://www.drcheckraise.com/phorum/read.php?44,4608,4608#msg-4608</link><description><![CDATA[ Hayloftkid brought up a good point in my last post &quot;Betting patterns&quot;. He talked about online players, playing more than one game a time. For me, when SC had the 20, 50 and 75 I played them all at once and then signed up for the 500 as well. I learned about myself that I can play 2 fairly well, 3 ok, but 4 impossible. I know that some can play 10 at once but. How many can you be succsessful at? For me I have gone down to one at a time. If your playing more than one, can you really see all the hands and the players actions? Can you really know your opponent? I can not, not yet anyway. Besides not being able to get a good beat on the table, you have the problem of games popping up at the wrong time and pushing the wrong button. ballsasteel had been quoted in Card Player mag a few months ago that when he plays more than one, he finds the express fold function helpful. And congrats on being published mr steel !<br /><br />So if your playing more than one, consider using the express fold. I never use it as for me I like to make every decision on every hand as they come. My game has improved by playing the player and for me I can only do that if I am watching every hand.<br /><br />Be honest withyourself, can you play well playing more than one? If you can and your winning carry on. If you can't , go back to one game at a time. Please add your thoughts, I always want to hear from everyone.]]></description>
<dc:creator>monmiss</dc:creator>
<category>Low Risk &amp; Low Limit Strategy</category><pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:56:23 -0700</pubDate></item>
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<title>Get ready for the big one, small things, big difference (3 replies)</title><link>http://www.drcheckraise.com/phorum/read.php?44,4240,4240#msg-4240</link><description><![CDATA[ 30 k Sunday ! Get ready<br /><br />1- Get a good nights rest<br /><br />2- Have a good breakfast<br /><br />3- Have a snack ready for the 5 min break<br /><br />4- Pay attention to all the players, especially when you are not in the hand.<br /><br />5- When there is an all in ask yourself Is this the hand I am willing to risk it all on?<br /><br />6- Think ahead. if you raise preflop are you willing to call a reraise?<br /><br />7- Stay away from rookies and those atc (any two card players) unless you have em beat<br /><br />8- Do not let your emotions play the game,. play with your head, if you need to step back then do so. Do not play mad.<br /><br />9- Watch your position and who is in the hand with you.<br /><br />10- Watch chip stacks<br /><br />If you live with someone, ask them to leave you alone this is the big one!!!<br /><br />Anything else?<br />Gl all see yas Sunday]]></description>
<dc:creator>monmiss</dc:creator>
<category>Low Risk &amp; Low Limit Strategy</category><pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:01:55 -0800</pubDate></item>
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<title>AA KK very early in a tournament (8 replies)</title><link>http://www.drcheckraise.com/phorum/read.php?44,3583,3583#msg-3583</link><description><![CDATA[ I am looking for opinions on how to play aces and kings(pocket pairs) when the blinds are very low. say 10/20, 20/40. When the blinds are 50/100 you can make big enough raises to get out lessor hands and still get some action.<br /><br />If you raise to 120 on a 10/20 blind, watch as you get five callers, and shake your head.<br /><br />20/40 raise to 220, 240, get three or four callers and shake your head.<br /><br />Then after the flop, making a pot size bet is not enough to scare away the drawing players. Hell the drawing players like to push you all in.<br /><br />I like it when I got one of these hands on the first hand of the tournament, so that I can just push all in and look like one of the donks!!! But even then you might get 3 callers with small pocket pairs and A rags, and of course they hit.<br /><br />Some times I would rather just start a tournament and not even see any of my cards until the 3rd level.<br /><br />What are some other thoughts??<br /><br />portlandford]]></description>
<dc:creator>portlandford</dc:creator>
<category>Low Risk &amp; Low Limit Strategy</category><pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:12:18 -0700</pubDate></item>
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